Records Show Plies Lied About Criminal Past
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July 28, 2008 | Author: Paul W Arnold
Hip Hop icon, and creator of the term “thug life,” Tupac Shakur, once confessed that although occasionally sprinkling his rhymes with mentions of felonious activities, he never actually had a record until he made a record.
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So too appears to be the case with the arguable Tupac of 2007/2008, Slip-N-Slide/Atlantic Records recording artist, and promoter of his own criminal exploits, Plies. HipHopDX has obtained documentation from the state of Florida that lists the “definition of real” rapper’s first real run-in with the law to have not taken place until two years ago, on April 12, 2006, when Plies – real name Algernod Lanier Washington, born May 22, 1976 – would have been on the eve of his 30th birthday and just beginning his ascension to his current status of gold-certified rap star.
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The email printout of the documentation, which appears at the end of this report, was obtained from the Florida Department Of Law Enforcement (FDLE) by paying the $24 fee and searching here [https://www2.fdle.state.fl.us/cchinet/] in the FDLE’s criminal history database for Algernod Washington.
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The FDLE’s criminal record for Plies shows that the self-described “goon affiliated, ex drug dealer” who’s “resume solid, street cred bigger” has been arrested just twice within his home state of Florida during his adult life, with both arrests taking place two years ago.
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The 32-year-old was arrested for the first time at the age of 29 on April 12, 2006 for the misdemeanor charge of resisting an officer without violence.
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The latter of his two adult arrests came during a well-publicized shooting at a Gainesville, Florida nightclub after a Plies performance on July 2, 2006. According to reports, members of the rapper’s entourage, including his older brother, Ronell “Big Gates” Lavatte, pulled out guns and fired in the club after Plies, who’s performance was running long, became angry when his microphone was cut off so that Lil Boosie could begin to perform.
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Plies’ career guide/older brother, and another man, Troy Denard Carnegie, were both charged with attempted murder, each accused of firing at least three rounds in the club that night. According to reports, Big Gates has only one more year to serve on his sentence for his involvement in the shooting, but a Ronell Lavatte cannot be located in the Florida Department Of Corrections offender search here [http://www.dc.state.fl.us/InmateInfo/InmateInfoMenu.asp] to verify that claim. However, a search for Mr. Carnegie here [http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=522963802] revealed that he is scheduled to be released from custody on June 20, 2010.
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Unlike his brother and Mr. Carnegie, Plies was charged with just a misdemeanor count for possession of a concealed weapon after police found loaded firearms in the vehicle he and his entourage were riding in. He posted a $50,000 bond shortly thereafter and was released. Plies served no known jail time after later pleading no contest to the charge.
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He has however subsequently been sued by five Gainesville residents who claim they were the victims of the shooting at the concert and are seeking $10 million in damages [click to read]. Plies’ attorney has publicly stated in response to the lawsuit that if they’re suing the rapper, they’re “suing the wrong person.”
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HipHopDX’s search of the FDLE’s database for Plies’ entire criminal history was pursued after learning that records existed in another criminal database available to the public, that of Lee County, Florida, home to Plies’ native Fort Myers, Florida, which showed that the rapper had been cited for a handful of traffic offenses but never had any criminal charges brought against him.
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This record was obtained by searching here [http://www.leeclerk.org/Crim_defendant_Name_sel.asp], with results showing that Plies run-ins with the Fort Myers Police Department during his adult life appear to have been limited to five traffic stops (two in 1997, one in 1999, and two in 2002) and citations for unknowingly not having his driver’s license on him, having too dark of tint on his car windows, and playing his car stereo too loud.
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These traffic offenses are not included in the FDLE’s report on all of Plies’ criminal history within the state of Florida because according to the FDLE website no results are returned for “a misdemeanor other than those required to be submitted to FDLE under Florida Statutes.”
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DX also searched the public criminal records databases for Hillsborough County here [http://www.hillsclerk.com/publicweb/Search_Court_Records.aspx] (which houses Plies’ current known residence in Tampa, Florida), and Miami-Dade County here [http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/cjis/search4.asp] (which is home to his record label, Slip-N-Slide Records) prior to confirming all of Plies’ criminal activities within the state of Florida via the FDLE’s report. Both countywide searches yielded no records of criminal activity for an Algernod Washington. The Hillsborough County search revealed only a handful of civil filings against Plies, including for unpaid rent.
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It should be noted however that none of these county databases nor the FDLE’s report includes any juvenile criminal record that might have existed for Plies prior to his 18th birthday in 1994, or any federal criminal charges that might have been levied against the rapper in the 14 years since.
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And, as is commonly understood, the absence of an arrest record is never absolute proof of the complete absence of one’s criminal activity.
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However, it’s been documented in previous articles on the “realest” street scribe in Hip Hop today that Plies’ time was mostly consumed in the mid-to-late ‘90’s attending college at either Miami University in Oxford, Ohio – where he reportedly played on the football team – or the University of South Florida in Tampa, or both schools (there are conflicting reports regarding his collegiate career, and DX was unable to substantiate any as of press time).
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And while crime has clearly hovered around the rapper’s day-to-day life in recent years, impacting him indirectly via the aforementioned incarceration of his older brother and the recent arrest of his manager, first person accounts of criminal activities on Plies’ part are conspicuously scarce in his raw rhymes. Instead, sympathetic laments on the cruelties experienced by family members and friends at the hands of an oftentimes merciless justice system, and not his own personal experiences, can be found in most of his material.
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But there are the occasional past tense references to what appear to be claims of his own criminal activity. One glaring example can be found during his lament on the suffering his alleged criminal activities caused his mother on “Runnin My Momma Crazy,” in which he recollects: “Remember the nights, me sittin’ up in a cold cell/I’m wakin’ ya up out’cha sleep, it’s me callin’ you from jail.” While passionate, his verse’s claim that he was ever in a “cold cell” now appears to be untruthful, as according to the FDLE’s report Plies was never in jail for any period of time prior to 2006.
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In addition to fallacious statements in song, Plies has also produced a contemptuous image for himself on the screen, including his portrayal as a high rollin’ drug dealer in the video clip for “Worth Goin Fed Fo”.
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Recent “outings” of fellow Floridian, and Slip-N-Slide labelmate, Rick Ross, as well as “Hypnotized” collaborator Akon have shone a new light on the exaggerated, and in some instances completely fabricated, biographies crafted by too many of today’s Hip Hop artists.
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These personal “stories” highlight phantom criminal backgrounds in an attempt to boost so-called “street cred” with fans who often are not living such lives and are therefore attracted to these tall tales of Tony Montana-esque (or in Plies’ case, O-Dog-style) criminal prowess and/or success. These fake personas proving to be alarmingly irresponsible when absorbed by the equally impressionable, but oftentimes far more impoverished, segment of the Hip Hop audience who believe with a dangerous literalism that they too can lead lives of crime ala fictional movie criminals or equally fictional rap criminals and yet in still eventually become an unimprisoned Hip Hop celebrity.
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And while fabricated bios are nothing new to Hip Hop, even claiming the careers of some artists (see Vanilla Ice), unlike most emcees of yesteryear like the aforementioned Tupac, who balanced his occasionally outlandish claims of dope dealing and gang banging with cautionary tales of the pitfalls involved in a life of crime (see “Shorty Wanna Be A Thug,” “Young Niggaz,” etc), Plies seems more oblivious to maintaining any artistic responsibility, instead recklessly crafting a seemingly strategic image and seeking to capitalize on fraudulent claims of criminal activity all the while declaring to be Hip Hop’s undiluted truth teller, personifying all that is “real.”
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It’s now abundantly apparent that Plies has forsaken being fully forthright with his fans, failing to make the crucial distinction that those around him, and not he, are the real victims of our nation’s often flawed justice system, and that he is merely observing and reporting their experiences within a life of crime and not his own.
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Representatives for Plies could not be reached for comment on this report as of press time.
Like Trick Daddy said, who cares! Should you be proud to be an ex-con? Come on fam be real; get money – say nothing!!
Do a background check on Bun B!
Who cares about their past!?
You like their rhymes and their music then roll with it. I don’t have a record but if you fuck with me I will bust your azz!
Not having a record doesn’t make you a punk!
no, u shouldn’t be proud to be a ex-con. but, u shouldn’t be acting like u one either.
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Where the truth is told
Lies are exposed
And haters are sent packin’
Its entertainment, you have to take these rappers for what they are. They entertain people and thats it
RAPPERS SHOULD BE VIEWED AT “ENTERTAINERS” JUST LIKE ACTORS. NO ONE CRITIZIED DENZEL FOR TRAINING DAY OR FOR PLAYING IN AMERICAN GANGSTER. NO ONE CRIES ABOUT YOUNG KIDS WATCHING THAT MOVIE WANTING TO BE THE NEXT BUMPY JOHNSON OR FRANK LUCAS, SO WHY SHOULD THERE BE ANY DIFFERENCE WITH RAPPERS??
So too appears to be the case with the arguable Tupac of 2007/2008, Slip-N-Slide/Atlantic Records recording artist, and promoter of his own criminal exploits, Plies
nigga please! this sentence right here made me not even read this article this is not news.
these rappers tell people what they wanna hear its all a hustle who cares about a criminal record as long as the rapper is from where they say they are you can pretty much tell if they are telling the truth
Just another hood dude telling a hood story
But No Tupac not even close that statement is rediculous!
come on slime u need to get off the boo boo wit that rappers should b looked as entertainers shit.that was the most bitchmade statement ever!!!!! niggaz don’t say shit about training day or american gangsta because it’s a movie it’s not real!!!! when denzel is done on set he is denzel not frank lucas. he doesn’t run to dvd mag after the set brandishing his gun yellin what hood he rep. how n the fuck can u call misleading the people entertainment when there is no set or directors around them. point blank these niggaz r fake and should b dealt wit.
fuck that, niggaz gotta b pretty bitchmade to know niggaz is fraudulent and still ridin wit dem talkin bout it don’t matter they gettin paid. it do matter cuz if a nigga ain’t trill about his self from the gate then the hell wit em!!!!!im convinced that these rappers r 100% fake and the consumers who purchase their music to r fake , cuz a trill nigga gonna smell that boo boo from the gate!!!!!!!
rappers r entertainers. y do u think rappers r gettin alot of acting roles. a guy can have a hundred guns in his house or he can just be a family man, but when they get in that booth or appear on a dvd or on stage, thet have to get into character. just like denzel washington.
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I want REAL HONEST music, if i want to be entertained, i’ll watch a movie
i’m kind of on both sides of the argument. while i know alot of these dudes sort of fabricate their involvement in the streets, there might be a chance that they did SOME of the things they say they did. Of course their going to hype some of it up for the entertainment value. Also i don’t listen to a dude just spittin all that street stuff i mean it sounds good, but at the same time i wanna hear a message behind it for the kids growing up now. It’s all good to tell these stories, but let’s keep it real and tell both the good and the bad side of it.
PLIES CLAIM HE REAL BUT HE FAKE. HE SAY EVERYTHING IN HIS RHYMES IS REAL LIFE YES IT IS REAL LIFE BUT NOT HIS LIFE…… HE SHOULDVE STUCK WITH PLAYING FOOTBALL
fuck that fake ass nigga plies he’s garbage
who the fuck is this mrcblack you dumb ass fool rappers are entertainers and you have to take it like that.because you or going to support them either way it goes dummy unless youre going to crawl in a hole and dont listen to the radio or watch tv stop hating you punk bitch and get of the office computer and go back to work. BITCH NIGGA
Just because he doesn’t have a record doesn’t mean he didn’t sell drugs. You don’t have to get caught to commit a crime. Fuckin A.
IF UR PRESENT IS FRAUDULENT THEN UR PAST MATTERS…A WHOLE LOT!!! THAT’S SOME DUMB NIGGA SHIT WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN’T THINK MISREPRESENTING URSELF FOR A BUCK IS WRONG
if u was an influencial figure in hip-hop n some 2-bit, chain-snatchin, nickle-baggin punk came outta left field n jacked ur name AND lifestyle n ran wit it for a royalty check, u’d wanna expose em too!
IF U WANNA PLAY A CHARACTER, TAKE UR FAKE ASS TO HOLLYWOOD OR THE WWF!! THIS IS HIP-HOP!!
Man how can you be real if you’re a liar? All of these people listenin to Plies thinkin he a real nigga are crazy. I mean real people don’t lie about their life. A real muthafucka is straight up. How dare you try to compare rapping to acting? I mean seriously. To act you have to be able to play different personalities, I mean duh, you’re an actor! I agree with what Lefty said also. You can also tell J-Rod didn’t read the article. Plies did say he been locked up, records don’t show that. He could have sold drugs but I highly doubt that. Yall need to wake the fuck up and realize a lot of these rappers are lying to yall.
yo who kares man plies ma homeboy ma dog ma nigga fuck dat cuuuuuuz like real shit he still one of da realest niggas keep gettn money yo real reconize real……….GOONZ FO LIFE DOG
EVERY RAPPER TALK DAT HOOD SHIT BUT ITS ENTERTAINMENT
JADAKISS ONCE SAID”I AINT GOT NO FELONIES I’M GOOD WITH CRIMES ” IF YOU FUCK NIGGAS GET CAUGHT THEN FIND ANOTHER CAREER GOING TO JAIL DONT MAKE YOU A REAL NIGGA IT MEANS YOU ARE NOT GOOD AT WHAT YOU WERE DOING.I CAN PERSONALLY VOUCH FOR NOD(PLIES) A LOT OF DUMB SILLY NIGGAS STILL DONT KNOW TO THIS DAY WHO DONE DID SHIT TO THEM IN THE STREETS OF FORT MYERS AND I MEAN FROM AROUND ’94 UNTIL TODAY SO KEEP TALKING AND GOONS GONE KEEP STRIKING.REMEMBER BAD BOYS MOVE IN SILENCE!!! TAKE IT HOW YOU WANNA MY DOG HAS NEVER BEEN A OFFICER NOR A SNITCH LIKE TRICK DADDY OLE BOY POPS SO RUN IT BITCH
Dammmm L.A. On the comments now …. lolz naw but b4 I heard that nigga rick ross album I had jus seen the the real ” freeway rick” movie called 100 kilos and how he was the big drug dealer out here…my dad told me he is still alive and wen he get out of jail the shyt was gone be on the news…. lolz …. now they say plies is fake naw man wtf is the game comin tooo nigga wanna dance on they tracks niggas wanna kill people on they tracks niggas wanna sell drugs on they track man.
ALL I CAN SAY IS there is and there aint no rules in this game so niggas who need gemics gone depend on them to sell they shyt me I don’t need no gemic to rap I jus spit wat I been thru and wat I’m goin thru now …. nigga need to jus be they self jus becuhs some nigga sold drugs b4 they got in or on to rap scene don’t u gotta be no damn drug Dealer………
I’m a rapper and I know dat u have to seperate ur real life from this rap shit because its only entertainment. I don’t lie in my lyrics but some guys choose to. Dat don’t make dem a bitch ass nigga. All u should be thinkin about gettin financially stable for ur kids sake. What another nigga think don’t matter. I think 2Pac is the greatest, but I know he didn’t live alot of his lyrics. He even admitted it. That hip hop vs. america shit is some hattin shit too. All of dem people on stage talkin bad about hip hop probably enjoy watching porn in their spare time, but complain about a girl dancing in a rap video. If dat aint hattin I don’t know what is.
only a dumb criminal gets caught. but still what is going dirty dirty. Correctional officers, cb4 gustos, and heroin addicts wit no bodies but tears tats on they face playing guitars calling a comrad daddy. what is going on.
trick daddy is a liar. thats all ima gonna say
this is all bull shit these fake ass niggas need ta leave any kind of street game alone that includes tha streets itself and tha rap game cuz its goin ta start gettin even more crazy so beware fake ass niggas cuz i know sum real ppl that will put it on u for just tha cause
PLIES I DONT CAR IF U HAVENT BEEN ARESTED 2 TIMES YO MUSIC IZ DA TRUTH AND U GETTIN MONE4Y DAT ALL THEY NEED TO KNOW IT’S GOOD U ONLY BEEN ARESTED 2 TIME DAT BAD ENOUGH PLIES KEEO GETTIN YO MONEYUP
Man niggas around my way that rap are fake they talk about guns and shit and they never put in no work.they fakin it till they make it just like these real rappers do.
Man, niggas around my way that rap are fake they talk about guns and shit and they never put in no work.they fakin it till they make it just like these real rappers do.
i think plies is garbage i could care less what he raps about i still wouldnt like it… yea its true maybe he did do shit before he got charges… but all i know is if you’re telling people this is you’re true life then it better sure as hell be your true life…. and for the idiot that compared him to denzel… thats completely different.. denzel is an “actor” not a rapper claiming to do all shit he raps about… you dont see denzel saying he’s a crooked cop in real life… you dont see denzel claiming to be some big time drug dealer like frank lucas in real life do you?
Man what happen to being a street ni99a and not getting caught? I dont know anyone who prides themselves on going to the clink! The longer you stay locked down the less money you can make. If you flip what is said above, he had a better chance of making money than the people who do rap about always being in jail.
To the person who said I compared plies to denzel: I said when rappers get in the booth, on stage, on 106npark and on dvds they get into character just like denzel would have to get into character when he acts. All of it is entertainment. All u see is when the rappers appear in the venues I listed above. When rappers get around their wife and kids they are family men just like u, denzel, or any other man. Go ask em.
man long story short… ne body dat sold drugs aint got da patience 4 no royalty check 2 come in and damn a tour my nigga ..U cant compare2 an, in the streets nigga u industry nigga, u kill it we da real 0ut here ur music just get us by give us something 2 listen 2 ..U wanna B like us so hard u sell out u dont work 4 da streets u grind 4 da RIAA , goons 2 a goblin …B00!!!!!!!!!!!
hip hop really is dyin….one fake artist at a time…Plies lyin about bein n jail….but he talkin bout he callin his mama from jail? rick ross still denyin the photos? Mariah Carey married Nick Cannon?! wtf is goin on n the world 2day… r there any real hip hop artists anymore?
MAN I NEW PLIES WASNT A REAL NIGGA SOMEONE NEED 2 SHOW DAT NIGGA WAT IZ ALL ABOUT ENSTED OF TALKIN ABOUT IT HE FAKE
they jus got the shit he was arrested for. Its not illegal until u get caught. He could of did mad shit that the law niggaz dont know about
whoa mr anonymous fall back mysterious gangsta lol. i know u pussy fo real know what im talkin bout. i can’t even c ur face is one thing but u can’t even leave ur name at a bloggin site, u c where im gettin at
fake ass gangsta rappers..everybody knows that movie and music are different things….when wesley snipes is making a gangsta-ass movie, after the set..he’ll tell u that he’s definitely not who he is in that movie…now let’s go in the rap game..when shitty-plies is making a gangsta-ass album knowing that he ain’t never ever done those things he’s saying…after recording it, he runs around trying convince people that he really is who he is in that album..at the same time he knows that he’s lying lol…how real is that?…a lot stupid mothafuckaz in this page still don’t get it…dick-riders…fuck plies and the rest of them lying-ass gangsta rappers…
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